anna balint on Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:25:40 +0200 (CEST) |
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if you think to start a syndicate-digest version, I certainly volunteer to administrate the syndicate list. It is perhaps anyway decent and wise that a list about east- west art connections has involvement in the maintenance from east as well. MDear Inke,aybe because of my very different background - I grew up in a totalitarian country, where I was forced into a conspirational existence, I know what it is like - i am very sensible to censorship and inclusion/exclusion matters, and i strongly disagree with banning anybody from the list. If nn does will not have opportunity to show up on the syndicate list I will inform the 'Index on Censorship' forum and paper about the situation created, and suggest to start collecting all records referring to nn's case. This paper made echoing worldwide also Salman Rushdie's affair. There is also a possibility to multiply nn, since literally anybody of us can be nn. Have you seen yet plants loosing their mind and bury their buds underground? There are many. Of course there is a possibility to start a samizdat (=own publication). But who could respire the air of freedom, does not accept mind crime anymore -as Orwell would say-, can't sleep, starts to live awaken, without dreams, learns Grammatik's to investigate the dark sky for an enormous star sentence which one feels will arise one day. Dear Lorenzo, I thought you were joking when asking for the address of integer. Everybody knows the address integer@god- emil.dk! Dear Andreas, it seems that you banned integer from the syndicate list for very personal reasons, without surveying the opinion of the community. Integer brought up recently so many relevant questions related to art, software, funding, east-west, corporations, information management, public-private, media, media art - all core topics of the list so that now it is very much missing her/his contribution. His/her texts became much softer and readable when not encountering censorship, I am sure many people enjoyed them. Were there too many messages? Did you consider how much time it took HIM/HER to write them? I think it is necessary and nice to stick your head out, and try to solve your conflicts with integer. That you give chance that s/he defends him/herself is a minimum! It is absurd to ban from an art related list the best artists! It is absurd to not be able to stand and negotiate with an artist who won the first prize at transmediale. Even the name of integer is so relevant - when the syndicate list is in disintegration as Eric Kluitenberg says, what else does it need than integration? It is bizarre to not appreciate him/her the most! You are not alone having difficulties with some artists. For example Istvan Kantor got a prize at the ars electronica last year, but he was not allowed to the award ceremony in person, so much some organizers were terrified of his presence in public and while not busy with his own performance. But it is so strange and ridiculous when he is such a cool and good mannered gentleman! We enjoyed a lot the restrictions. Dear Anke Hoffmann! I would be very interested to find out what are the rules of the cyber society and which one did integre not respect. I give a historical example. Socrates very often compared himself to a breeze, because of his manner of strong questioning. It is interesting that the people never expulsed him from Athena though it would have been easy with the ostrakismos (a kind of inverse voting system very much in fashion at that time. if someone believed that a person is harming the polis, one could walk to the agora and write the name of the enemy on a sherd board=ostrakon. if there were 6000 votes against somebody, that person had to leave the city for five years). Believe me, Socrates was a much more uncomfortable person than integer, he was a really a terrrible guy. But most people appreciated him, and some still do after so many years. faites vos jeux s'il vous pla?! greetings, below a message of mine from the end of June which got somehow lost. Anna Balint - tout ?rouge! Datum Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:45:40 +0200 Von anna balint <epistolaris@freemail.hu> An syndicate-owner@eg-r.isp-eg.de Antwort-An epistolaris@freemail.hu Betreff RE: s*bscribe! Teile (Quelle) >do you know anything about nn's criteria of selection +? >nn I am not sure, but I would be very curious to your opinion and other people's option as well. I can only say that I came to syndicate because it seemed to me an open minded list, and loyal to its expressed goal. I very much liked that people used it a lot during the Yugoslav conflicts and bombing, showed many faces of the war, and it gave chance to directly express solidarity voices with the people there. That was my first experience with too many messages for my perception and too small computer to receive them all. Since than, exactly due to you, myself - and maybe others too - learned more about how to handle too much information, spam, how to use the crab and I became more aware of the medium. I like the way syndicate functions, how it contoured and grabbed problems, and tried to develop strategies to solve them - like the Future States of Balkania imagination exercise or the Visa Department of the Deep Europe Workshop. I like that it is unmoderated, lets everybody to judge with his/her means information arriving. It welcomes everybody on the list and at meetings, it is the most transparent among the lists I know. It gave support to people who are s*bscribed, like recently for Edi Muka. I like the list because of its informative, documentary values and for the flexible theory accumulated here. For sure it serves as a body of interests for artists, curators, spaces, organizers or people connected to them by freely circulating their announcements and idea. best wishes, Anna Balint -----Syndicate mailinglist-------------------- Syndicate network for media culture and media art information and archive: http://www.v2.nl/syndicate to post to the Syndicate list: <syndicate@eg-r.isp-eg.de> to unsubscribe, write to <majordomo@eg-r.isp-eg.de>, in the body of the msg: unsubscribe syndicate your@email.adress