owner-nettime-l@Desk.nl (by way of Pit Schultz ) on Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:59:34 +0200 (MET DST) |
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<nettime> G.Cook: homework or self delusion? Re: More Homework |
[ a) The Namespace wrestling again.. it would be good to go to the newsgroup now. it's available on http://www.dejanews.com and at news://news.thing.at/alt.nettime - thank you! ] b) majordomo is currently bouncing back some of your mails, we 'll fix that soon.. /pit] Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 10:22:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Gordon Cook <cook@netaxs.com> To: MediaFilter <mf@mediafilter.org> cc: nettime-l@Desk.nl Subject: homework or self delusion? Re: <nettime> More Homework In-Reply-To: <1340239845-2476207@MediaFilter.org> Paul Garrin makes the following unsubstantiated claims: Given the fact that selling content on the web is not a feasable strategy, especially with non-commercial content that we tend to generate, the economic potential of Name.Space became the most viable strategy--as opposed to selling ads on nettime-- or worse...and a realistic one. And it is realized. People like it a lot and are using it. Cook: Really? Let's look at what it is that they are using. What benefits are they deriving from it? Can I enter a name.space name and expect to see it resolved any where beyond the .1% of name servers in your pirate network? That is the REALITY you presently face.A minute self referential community reachable only by other community members. Garrin: It just now needs to be globally recognized and more people will join as they see the new addresses in use. Cook: no kidding -- why not be honest about what it will take to be globally recognized? You have going against you the US Government and the internet society, and WIPO, and ITU, and the world trademark organization. And because your intentions are pure their positions will collapse. Garrin: The infrastructure is in place now and is fully functional. there are 13 nameservers running on 9 routes in 5 countries with Poland, Sweden and Latvia to join in the next 6-8 weeks. Cook: tell the truth and admit that such infrastructure guarantees an address that is unreachable by 99.9% of the internet. Why? Because name.space is not now and never will be in the root name servers. Since this is the case, if someone wants to help the arts or the electronic arts in particular, such a person is much better advised to send a contribution DIRECTLY to an arts organization rather than to you for an electronic bumper sticker that can work only in a tiny self referential community. I assume people here are interested in being able to reach the entire internet with their domain name? Garrin: Name.Space has prevailed in gaining wide acceptance of a decentralized, public domain (international) toplevel namespace. The over 400 top level categories carried on the name.space system were suggested by the public via the form on the name.space website. Cook: we have here another unsubstantiated assertion of the previous variety. You never did answer my original question Paul -- namely what basis you had for asserting that comments favorable to name.space were a major proportion of the replies received by the NOI. And now again you assert wide acceptance defined as 400 categories thiought up by 40 million internet users. ************************************************************************ The COOK Report on Internet For subsc. pricing & more than 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA ten megabytes of free material (609) 882-2572 (phone & fax) visit http://cookreport.com/ Internet: cook@cookreport.com New Special Report: Internet Governance at the Crossroads ($175) http://cookreport.com/inetgov.shtml ************************************************************************ --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@icf.de and "info nettime" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner@icf.de