oliver lerone schultz on Fri, 8 Jan 2021 21:10:19 +0100 (CET)


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hey,

only an analytical 'footnote', or pointer – but I was looking at the interesting article Flick referenced. and just had to think of David Graeber´s analytical digestion attempt, trying to grapple with the Tory win in UK.

... and there is probably no need in stressing the strategical/configurational similarities btw. the way 'post-establishment' – or, rather: crypto-establishment – politics unfurl in USA & UK (both being – by way of their national(ist) characteristics/configuration – 'post-'colonial death flowers in relation to the trajectory of classical industrial-capitalist 'modernity'.
... any way, not getting into that :-) – but really just pointing to the talk/presentation and analysis of Graeber in this context(who also mentions US political and socio-economic tectonics), as I think it is helpful for deeper reconstruction of this bizarre blooming.

From Managerial Feudalism to the Revolt of the Caring Classes presented by David Graeber in Chaos Communication Congress:
http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/managerial-feudalism-revolt-caring-classes/

One thing it brings is a linkage between demographics and social and political analytics, extending and deepening the perspective brought forward in the Guardian-piece.

Maybe the only one thing/thought I´d attach, sensing 'the drift of the discussion' here (and of some related preceding ones; as 'we have been here' before): while the extenstion of the socio-political question to 'categories'/'logics'/'legacies' (= politics) of race/(Zombie-)colonialism is essential, a reduction of the social conundrum to it would also deal 'us' a lacking frame of political reference.
I am sure some others here have some good references at their fingertips about how to integrate post-/de-colonial perspective – particularly in the case of USA & UK – with an up-to-date class-politics, and I am looking forward to hints... it´s a monumental task to develop that anyways...
... meanwhile, for me Graeber names some essential pieces/bits that belong into any such progressive-analytical equation.

best to all!
oliver

Flick Harrison schrieb am 8.1.2021 um 20:23:
The fact that you port them into a representation of “poor white Americans” suggests a leap of logic that isn’t supported by facts.

Trump / Republican supporters skew higher-income.

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