Re: <nettime> The alt-right and the death of counterculture

[Morlock Elloi <morlockelloi@gmail.com>]

The notion that one must condone the existing 'efforts', or suggest 
something better, or shut up, as anything else is supporting the 
'enemy', is asinine at best.

Desperately clinging to the ideals of the 19/20th century (welfare 
state, democracy, employment etc., plus some identity politics) is a 
demonstrably dead end - they got us where we are now. And no, the next 
time it won't be any better.

The precondition of moving forward is abandoning the dead ideologies, 
not zombifying them. In this sense it is fully justified to point out 
how dead these are, without offering anything else. You are not entitled 
to unchallenged hobbies. Perhaps the absence of the constant chants to 
the past will enable some new and original thinking, which we do need, 
badly. I see any of that in the lifestyle movements you enumerate.



On 7/8/17, 5:39, lincoln dahlberg wrote:
> suggestions/answers from your current thoughts and practices? For
> example, extremely broadly put and given your dismissal of much past
> intellecutal-cultural-political projects: what should critique consist
> of today? what of today's party politics (Corbyn, Podemos, etc?), and
> what of today's social-political movements? Are you suggesting a left
> populism (of, e.g., Laclau et al,) in

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