Jaromil on Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:57:31 +0200 (CEST) |
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dear Ted, On Sun, 27 Sep 2015, t byfield wrote: > On 27 Sep 2015, at 5:02, Jaromil wrote: > > >to debate this thing as if it would be just about Volkswagen is so > >naive! srsly. There is nothing to be learned there. > > Jaromil, I think it's a bit premature to counter claims that this is > 'just about Volkswagen,' because no one said anything like that. > Obviously there are many ways in which this is symptomatic of broader > structures. But Lehman Brothers and Fukushima were symptomatic as > well, and would you really argue that 'there was nothing to be learned > there' either? *And* hold hold up Android's OEMs cheating on > benchmarks as a more illuminating example? I don't think so. I believe that in 2015 and on top of all the literature we have been imbued there is no point for us to engage blaming VW as the evil manufacturer, or take political correctsy postures about institutional funding one or the other takes, FWIW. do you think the VW is any different than the hackingteam affair? its not. HT was allegedly buying and reselling scriptkiddoz 0days available for anyone on the oh-so-sexy "dark-market" to spray holes in the mobile phones of their classmates, until some sharks got their rich and berlusconi-looking friends to VC boost them to-the-moon by putting such ridicolous digital hairballs in quarantine before selling them for thousands of euros to the booming security industry - which is by the vast majority populated by clueless and militarized people in uniforms collecting certifications and verifications to hide their idiocy behind a soon-to-be-academic title in every cyber-crime 5star catered conference they go, because sure! these kids are soooo dangerous! this is a sketch of how the industry works today. the automotive is not different and as I said in my previous email on HT the problem is not hackingteam per se, as much as now the problem is not VW per se. wake up to these news: there is an actual dark market for software like the one VW used to counterfeit their autos http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/volkswagen-wasnt-the-only-company-rigging-emission-levels-says-expert-a6668611.html > Relying on open-source metaphor-mantras ('Would you buy a car with the > hood welded shut?') to analyze peculiar dynamics of the car industry this is NOT a peculiar dynamic of the car industry. This is how the current necrotizing capitalist regime of patents works in every sector of industrial production, thriving wherever no open source business model is embraced, let alone the free software ethic. There are different degrees of responsibility for software, sure, and there could be various degrees of attention on different parts of software, as Florian mentions, sure, but then with open access at least we'd have infinite possibilities for researchers to choose their independent code analysis MA project, etc. etc. instead of isolated scandals popping up here and there. We need to switch to such a condition as tech is becoming more pervasive and entrenched with life-critical functions, there is no way out of this and I hope we can thrive in the open system picture that John gives us with a numerous enough population, rather than after a total desaster. anyway ok, today the trend is to blame german car manufacturers, to me sounds just like that "blaming german people for the greek crisis" fart a month ago. ciao -- Denis Roio aka Jaromil http://Dyne.org think &do tank CTO and co-founder free/open source developer åå 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org