yoner on Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:28:44 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> more on Kittler |
hi margaret, i am not a woman but I do appreciate so much that you posted this personal perspective on Kittler, a theorist whose work influenced me tremendously. For a list that is ostensibly focused on thinking about the cultural and social parameters of technology, it is amazing that you would be attacked for relating your experiences as a woman. that is the norm on other technoscience sites/forums but i had thought that here the audiences would be quite receptive to understanding an embodied, anthropological experience of another person. perhaps people here - who i've found refreshingly open, progressive and leftist about almost all issues - can only think through progressivism and leftism insofar as it can be "universalized" but fail to focus on the lived and specific experiences of race, class and gender in technological issues due to white/european privileges -- which of course often accompany access to technology. this is disappointing, but only conversation will make it better. thanks again! yoni ----- Original message ----- From: "Margaret Morse" <memorse@comcast.net> To: nettime-l@kein.org Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:38:24 -0800 Subject: Re: <nettime> more on Kittler Dear nettime colleagues, I want to thank Eugen and Nancy for their heartfelt and revealing posts about Kittler, including some valuable links that led to other links. I will stick to my own reminiscences in my response and avoid going into the story about the yacht and the Sirens or the sad events that ended in a hommage with 2 bras. I found the material they included really wierd enough to get my attention as well as honest and touching. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org