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Hi Brian (always consistent!) and Stefan (it's neoclassical economists that got us in this mess, not the postkeynesians), on rentiers' euthanasia you might be interested in planet ZIRP (zero-interest rate policy), ciao, lx Zero hour Published: November 8 2008 02:00 | Last updated: November 8 2008 02:00 On the edge of the known financial universe lies the planet Zirp, where money appears to be free. Zirpeans explain that this is because of their zero interest rate policy. As interest rates come crashing down on Earth, many wonder if it is becoming Zirpean too. Some say it has already happened. Although official US interest rates are 1 per cent, overnight borrowing costs a mere 0.3 per cent, almost zero. Parts of Earth have gone Zirpean before, in Japan, from February 1999 until the middle of 2006. The period was a scourge. The economy was so weak that deflation reigned. Nervous banks, companies and households - quite rationally - clung to cash rather than spend or lend it. Deflation meant that it was worth more every day. The same, unfortunately, was true of debts. As a result, everyone scrambled to pay-off their mortgages, credit card balances and the like. Credit demand collapsed. Not even zero interest rates could get the economy moving. Simply, nobody wanted to borrow. Today, most people quite naturally want to avoid a repeat of this scary state of affairs. Yet Zirp, in itself, is nothing to be afraid of. What is scary is the deflation that usually prompts it. For one thing, falling prices meant that Japan's zero interest rates were actually positive in "real" terms. Rates appeared to be zero only because of what economists call "money illusion". Money, in fact, was not free. And rates could not be cut beyond zero to make it so. That was the problem. That is why central bankers have cut rates so fast this past month. They want to pre-empt the need to go to Zirp by flooding the world with cheap money. Because there is still inflation, US and UK rates are now negative in real terms - by 3 per cent and 1.5 per cent respectively - while eurozone and Japanese rates are positive by only a whisker. So is the global economy headed towards a world of zero interest rates? The answer, in real terms, is that, it has already arrived there. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Stefan Heidenreich <stefan.heidenreich@rz.hu-berlin.de> wrote: > Hi Brian et all > > i skip as much as possible all the questions - gold, keynes,-ism - where > keynes-specialists might help us further off-list and where your points > in fact seem mostly more precise. In order to come straight to the more > interesting points at the end. <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org