Re: <nettime> About French demonstrations [3x]

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   Re: <nettime> About French demonstrations against the new labor law?            
     J Rabie <joe@overmydeadbody.org>                                                

   Re: <nettime> About French demonstrations against the new labor law?            
     iarvers@free.fr                                                                 

   Re: <nettime> About French demonstrations against the new labor law?            
     Ronda Hauben <ronda@umcc.ais.org>                                               



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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:45:57 +0100
From: J Rabie <joe@overmydeadbody.org>
Subject: Re: <nettime> About French demonstrations against the new labor law?


Le 11 mars 06, =E0 18:19, Ronda Hauben a =E9crit :

>
> I heard for the first time last night that there have been big
> demonstrations in France against the passage of the new labor
> law which will make it possible for people under 26 years of age
> to be fired without reason.

The precise terms of the law is that young people will sign a contract

that has a two year trial period. What this implies is total job
insecurity, for people starting out in life, getting married, having
children, trying to get bank loans to buy a house. The govt says that
banks will allow loans to people with this contract, however they have

already demonstrated in the past that they have no leverage over the
private sector banks.


> This would seem to give encouragement to employers to terminate
> older workers as well as it will encourage harsh treatment toward
> younger workers.

Thankfully French labour law until now favours employees, so people
with permanent contracts should be generally OK relative to this new
contract. The threat to them comes more from downsizing and from
blackmail to delocalisation ("either work longer hours for the same
pay, or...").


Joe=




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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:06:43 +0100
From: iarvers@free.fr
Subject: Re: <nettime> About French demonstrations against the new labor law?

The main problem is the political schedule, after using the article 49.3 (that
authorizes the government to vote a law without the agreement of the assembly),
the government's aim is to enlarge this law to all the population (and not only
the youngsters)

This new form of contract "Contrat Nouvelle Embauche" is the end of the
unlimited time contract, it is also the end of a labor law in the favor of the
employee.

It enlarges the possibility for any company to fire an employee during two years
without giving no reason, it will be the generalization of short time contracts
and the bginning of the realm for bosses who will have all the rights.

Why the schedule is a problem? we are not far from the summer holidays in france
and this law could wait till the month of jully to be voted. Demonstrations in
the summer are not so powerfull, without any students or with people in
vacation...

IA



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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:51:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Ronda Hauben <ronda@umcc.ais.org>
Subject: Re: <nettime> About French demonstrations against the new labor law?


Thanks for the comments on this.

There has been little information about this in the US press at least.

I did an article that was published yesterday in OhmyNews

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?article_class=3&no=279060&rel_no=1
French Youth Up in Arms Over New Labor Law

'First Employment Contract' gives employer right to fire indiscriminately

It seems that lots of French student groups in universities are trying to
organize around this.


On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 iarvers@free.fr wrote:

> The main problem is the political schedule, after using the article 49.3
> (that authorizes the government to vote a law without the agreement of
> the assembly), the government's aim is to enlarge this law to all the
> population (and not only the youngsters)

So a signficant aspect of the protest is that there is so little chance
for input into what the government is doing. Interesting as this is the
serious problem in the US right now too.

>
> This new form of contract "Contrat Nouvelle Embauche" is the end of the
> unlimited time contract, it is also the end of a labor law in the favor
> of the employee.
>
> It enlarges the possibility for any company to fire an employee during
> two years without giving no reason, it will be the generalization of
> short time contracts and the bginning of the realm for bosses who will
> have all the rights.
>
> Why the schedule is a problem? we are not far from the summer holidays
> in france and this law could wait till the month of jully to be voted.
> Demonstrations in the summer are not so powerfull, without any students
> or with people in vacation...

So you expect this can happen this summer.

When is the university out for the summer?

>
> IA
>

Cheers

Ronda

P.S. there was just a short report on the dissent in France
about the CPE and the possible effect on the government on bbc.




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