<nettime> empire of the digests [integer, wise]

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integer@www.god-emil.dk
     Re:  Emily Eakin: What Is The Next Big Idea? Buzz Is Growing for <...>
Greg Wise <Greg.Wise@asu.edu>
     RE: [Reader-list] New York Times, Negri-hardt book via Nettime

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From: integer@www.god-emil.dk
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 03:21:19 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Re:  Emily Eakin: What Is The Next Big Idea? Buzz Is Growing for 'Empire' [NYT]

>[The Negri/Hardt Empire book is making rounds. Perhaps time for an online
>version? Does anyone about lengthy debate on the Net somewhere? Even though
>I liked reading it, I think it is very much an pre-1989 book which carefully
>avoids theorizing the fall of communism and what the real existing socialism
>was actually like. The same can be said of a lack in basic media theory,
>Internet and new media use by artists and activists. But for those who like
>Catholic utopianism in gloomy times of 'globalization' there is a lot of
>salvation to be found in Empire. /geert]
>
>Then there is the theory itself. Globalization isn't simply the latest
>phase in the history of imperialism and nation-states, the authors
>declare. It's something radically new. Where other scholars and the
>media depict countries vying for control of world markets, Mr. Hardt
>and Mr. Negri instead discern a new political system and a new form of
>power taking root. They call it Empire.
>
>Unlike historical empires, however, this one has no emperor, no
>geographic capital and no single seat of power. In fact, given the
>authors' abstruse formulation, it's almost easier to say what Empire
>isn't than what it is: a fluid, infinitely expanding and highly


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Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 13:23:06 -0700
From: Greg Wise <Greg.Wise@asu.edu>
Subject: RE: [Reader-list] New York Times, Negri-hardt book via Nettime

I just got the book, "Empire," recently, but have had too many other things
on my plate so I haven't had a chance to read it yet. But geert's comments
(below) reminded me of Nick Dyer-Witheford's "Cyber-Marx: Cycles and
Circuits of Struggle in High-Technology Capitalism" (1999, University of
Illinois Press) which addresses many these concerns (new media, activists
and IT, etc.) from the perspective of autonomist marxism, Negri
specifically. Excellent book. Sounds like it might make a good companion
piece when reading/teaching "Empire".

Greg 

J. Macgregor Wise
Arizona State University West

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ravi Sundaram [mailto:ravis@sarai.net]
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 6:16 AM
> To: reader-list@sarai.net
> Subject: [Reader-list] New York Times, Negri-hardt book via Nettime
> 
> 
> This is an article from the New York Times which Geert posted 
> on Nettime, with comments. I have not read the book yet (the 
> hardback-only prices made me choke), but notice how the NYT 
> article carefully focuses on Hardt's professional career rather 
> than Negri's own contribution. 
> (ravi)
> ---------------------------
> 
> [The Negri/Hardt Empire book is making rounds. Perhaps time 
 <...>

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