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Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
     Re: <nettime> usa.gov -> nssg.gov
integer@www.god-emil.dk
     Re: <nettime> Declaration of Interdependence

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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:46:45 +0200 (CEST)
From: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: Re: <nettime> usa.gov -> nssg.gov

Hi,

On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, brian carroll wrote:

>   searching for the Declaration of Independence, i first
>   typed us.gov and no such domain. then, www.usa.gov, and

Well, defending the Declaration of Independence, does anybody know
the URL of "No taxation without representation" ?
Boston Teaparty, something like that, couldnt find it.

H.

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From: integer@www.god-emil.dk
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 21:46:25 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Re: <nettime> Declaration of Interdependence


>Re:writing the Declaration of Independence, or:

or .... or another western male wishes to bring bananas to balkan da +?


>Men are created Unequal, as are Women, as are Children. If one is
>poor and one is rich, as private individuals, there are consequences
>that cannot be ignored and erased through ideologies of false truisms.
>Humans are created Equal. We are a planet Earth of 5 billion Humans,
>whom, as Humans, are One people. As Men, as Women, as labeled
>by ethnicity, sex, gender, disability, income, education, we are 5 billion
>different and separate people whom can never be one, as someone
>else's Mankind. We are Humankind, and as such we are One People.


humans arent created equal.
humans are treated equally.

grosz grosz d!ferensz.

nn





>A Public Dissent of the Declaration of Privatized Dependence


Iago has said "our bodies are our gardens to the which our wills are our 
gardeners"

There isn't a contradiction between free will and what one shall do knowing
in advance there isn't a contradiction between free will and knowing in
advance precisely what one shall do. If one knows self completely then this
is the situation.  
One does not deliberately do the opposite of that one wishes. [NN entered 
when Godel exited]


Jean-Jacques Rousseau in the Discourse on Inequality wrote: "The first life
form who, having enclosed a bit of land said 'This is mine', and found
people stupid enough to believe him, was the true founder of civilized
society".


I enclose my body and say: "This is mine. There are more riches than 
have yet to be revealed!! Extend me!!!"


The concept of ownership is essentially a social one - it is our social 
grammar.
When I feel pleasure, a sour taste or a sensation of blue light 
the experiences belong to me exclusively. They are MINE.

The idea of private ownership is psychologically the metaphorical extension
of the idea "this is my body" a matter of extending the boundaries.

Body without borders.
Our bodies are the borders of our understanding.
The universes are the body.

We want don't we +?

The first things which belong to me are those that are actually physically
a part of me - these are my eyes. my fingers etc. They aren't yours. When
they sense I sense. You may perceive and only. They may never be your
property. 

Never +? Never - but I plans for yours do have.

Is there something even more basic than the ownership of one's body +?

Yes. The "I" - hence "!"

Suppose I were to have a twin joined at the waist sharing the same skin. 
Which of MY bits are wiggling now +? What shall I claim as me and mine +?

I am the executive self - the de facto kontroller - the I. 

  


I am the realtime experiment - for sensations are self-characterizing /
self-disclosing and phenomenally immediate. No one has sensed in the past.
No one has sensed in the future.  
Present is all one can sense. 1+1=1

Sensations = I = persist for as long as the surface stimulation continues.

There is more to it still +? Have you tried +?


I tell to you and I - as night follows day across the surface of this
planeta so the waking state follows sleeping state across the surface of
the child's mind.

In sleep we collapse into our.cellls.


Now - to answer your question. 



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