Nmherman on Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:51:01 +0200 (CEST)


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The fact is,


>From: "minstrel niems" <minstrel_of_niems@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: "minstrel niems" <minstrel_of_niems@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: twhid@mteww.com, eryk@maine.rr.com
>CC: list@rhizome.org
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Collaborative Network For A World In Crisis
>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:08:44 -0400
>
>
>>At 12:59 PM -0700 10/18/01, josh zeidner wrote:
>>>   WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE SO DESPERATELY WANT TO BE
>>>CALLED AN ARTIST?
>>
>>and here we have a good example of why we're about to give up on rhizome
>>
>
>well i shouldn't think that a post that was simply an off the cuff remark
>should change anything. it reads plainly, reflecting the state of the 
>sender
>at the moment, hardly worth the upset.

But what about the subtext?  I'm inferring that Twhid believes writing for 
rhizome listeners is not worth the trouble.  I and my Genius 2000 Network 
have bred ill-feeling in the media-world for years.

"The words of the prophets were written on the subway walls"

I've called Twhid an asshole ever since he called me one.  I've called him a 
cheesy artschool hack (unfairly he can't call me one back), and I consider 
him a corrupt artist.

His ideas lend themselves to corruption.

I am not now saying and hope I have never said I thought Twhid was an evil 
man, a criminal, but I feel he wishes I were a criminal.  Tensions are high. 
  In a free society writers and artists can argue their ideas at will.  To 
the extent the USA does not now facilitate this very well for its own 
citizens (much less for the lower rungs of the overall global economy) makes 
our entire situation much worse.  The institutions of Art that we have had 
for some decades have not necessarily succeeded in preparing humanity for 
what looks to be the impending "Last War" that the planet as we know it can 
survive.

Vicious competition between and among artists to "make the best art" is a 
debugging and should be allowed to remain so.

>i had an email today, some spam, which was advertising cipro, the anti
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>is a network for disseminating information after 9/11 exploitation? well 
>no.
>the vast majority of north americans have experienced a major shift in 
>their
>world view, and their own vulerability. it wasn't a good thing, but to deny
>the change is foolish at best and dangerous at worst.
>we may want to try to hold on to the past security, if it existed.
>but a healthier response is to engage our psyches and expose our own new
>feelings.
>it seems to be healthy and forward looking.
>at least that route implies engagement and forward movement.For some 
>insight
>see the spam ad below
>
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