brian carroll on Sat, 14 Jul 2001 23:34:07 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> internetontology[ Diderot, Cyc, Deleuze, McLuhan,and Star Trek ] |
Josh, to be succinct: mathematics are by default authoritarian, in that numbers are beyond question. language, and reason, need to be able to speak to, and argue against, and mold these numbers to human ends. numbers, statistics, being universalized in science, have no equivalent universality in langauge. whyso? private identities, pyschologies, nothing is shared and words are only seen for difference, as there is believed to be no absolute in the word (unless it is God, it seems). in any case, without universal language to reason with universal mathematics, and those whom have the Power to use the nubmers to make the world in their imaginary vantages, then we are helpless, as a common bunch of weird beings, not trekkers with pointy ears but a sad sack of human beings that cannot even talk for themselves yet as a group, they are so confused. we know there are 5 billion plus people on Earth, say. we know that the Earth is a planet that is rapidly detoirating. but, if as 5 billion we cannot speak, we cannot effect change on that scale. we can only speak as groups of one, or fifty, or several million. often cacophonic. simplely put, without a mathematics of language, the language of mathematics will guide our future, and science, without human objectivity, will guide us with private numerologies of what is, such as having "good science" as the opponent to the Kyoto protocol uses for 'his' reasoning (sic) in a private worldview. that's that. bc _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold