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>From: Legrady Miklos <miklos@sympatico.ca>
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: beauty
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>Oliana wrote;
>"Those who can't get rid of traditional standards of beauty and 
>interactivity entertain their audience by
>making links to funny web pages."
>
>Tim Buckley said:
>  at an ICP lecture in '95, he praised the participating artists,
>"for avoiding the trap of aesthetics and concetrating on political or 
>theoretical questions."
>
>Mikidot observes;
>Aesthetics has a bad name in our time. Treated like a distant uncle 
>who embarrassingly plagues our family gatherings, it's  seen as a 
>weakness, leftover from patriarchal times when wives dragged their 
>husbands to the opera.  We dismiss it as  the pleasure principle, 
>self indulgence with a faint waft of sex attached to it.  Our 
>Calvinist background permeates our pleasure paradigms, equating 
>passion with pornography.
>
>Riding downtown Toronto on my bike yesterday afternoon, I reflected 
>on attraction to beauty, noticing those striking faces which make 
>people look up.  An instinctive attraction, our genetic sensuality, 
>yet held in contempt in academic and "educated" circles.  Is this not 
>self-loathing, similar to patriarchal males who bed a woman then 
>dislike her,  a hostility to the seductive principle?  Here the realm 
>of thought considers itself above the body, the intellect above 
>emotions, civilised above primitive.  We spontaneously seek 
>passion/beauty  and rationally defer our gratifications in hope of a 
>better future.  If not now, when?
>Contemporary aesthetic paradigms bring us to Simon on his pillar in 
>the desert, mortifying the body to come closer to God.  Substitute 
>Intellect for God.
>-- 

e k s e l e n t ++


+ ur anzuerz.  - http://www.eusocial.com/242.looking.glass



+ http://www.eusocial.com/nato.0+55+3d/242.ircam.html



auss!


a - 8 !ear old l!f 4rm
b - 01 oldr l!f 4rm
c - a.z mother

b - do u knou knou uat konsc!ouznesz !z +?
a - ! = hav heard dze uord ma!z != knou uat !t = !z nor hou 2 ut!l!sz !t.
c - dze z!tuaz!e = zomuat l!ke mol!ere.z pla! le bourgeo!z gent!lhomme - 
    monz!eur jourda!n = uaz amazd 2 d!zkovr he had b!n zpeak!ng proze 
    4 dze lazt 4o !earz u!thout knou!ng !t uaz proze.
b - ! uant u 2 th!nk bak 2 uen u uear azleep or 4uard !f u l!ke 2 uen u
    trvl 2 zleep 2n!ght. u ud agree dzat dzere = 01 lrg d!frnsz betu!n 
    be!ng auake + be!ng azleep !ez +?
a - ev!damnt.
b - zuposz ! = uear 2 azk u uat be!ng azleep uear l!ke.
    ud u menz!on 4 !nztansz dzat uen du = azleep ur e!ez = klozd. du != mov.
    ur thoughtz hav kom 2 01 halt + du != an! longr sensz an!dz!ng hapen!ng 2 u +?
a - ! = probabl! ud.
b - !t !z dzn az !f dzere = 01 zort ov pausz !n ur eksz!ztensz.
a - da.
b - 01 analog! = az 01 flame ov 01 gaz lamp be!ng
    turnd doun - shr!nk!ng 2 almozt 0+0 ma!z not akzual! go!ng out.
a - da. = k!nd ov kolapz !n m! zelv.
b - tzo - uear ! 2 azk uat be!ng auake = l!ke ud u za! !t = dze opoz!t ov be!ng
    azleep +? !e. ur e!ez = opn. du = mov!ng + hav!ng 01 amalgam ov thoughtz +
    zent!mntz +? 
a - ou!.
b - dzn - uat = dzat makez be!ng auake real! d!frnt 4rom be!ng azleep +?
    r all ov dze d!frnzez du = menz!ond ekual! !mportant +? 4 !nztansz
    uen du = auake do u hav 2 b mov!ng +?
a - non. = general! m mov!ng ma!z != muzt b. auss! = look. jetzt = hav kloszd m! e!ez
    abr = zt!l auake. once = hav auokn dur!ng dze n!ght aftr 01 bad dream +
    kouldnt mov though had uantd 2. !t uaz az !f paral!szd - ma!z = had b!n auake
    + ! = uaz zkared.
b - dzn phpz !t = ur th!nk!ng dzat = makez all ov dze d!frnsz. uen du = auake
    do u hav 2 b hav!ng thoughtz +? 
a - = moztl! zeem 2. m moztl! th!nk!ng u!lzt auake - evn !f l!ng !n bed or z!t!ng zt!l.
b - = rekal 01 kartoon. dzere = 01 old man z!t!ng on 01 park bench + 01 uoman za!d
    2 h!m. `tell m! - hou do u pass ur t!me` + he za!d. `uel. = zomt!mz ! = juzt z!t
    + th!nk. + zomt!mz ! = juzt z!t`. dont u evr juzt z!t u!thout th!nk!ng +?
a - ne. = oftn dont juzt z!t - ma!z = zomt!mz = juzt l!e !n dze bath or l!ztn 2 muz!k
    or uen hurt = kr! + feel ultra tr!zt ___.. odr = ma! juzt z!t + konzum 01
    !sz krema + ! != ud b th!nk!ng. at t!mez fr!endz za! `penn! 4 ur thoughtz`
    + != knou uat 2 za! 4 != had b!n hav!ng an! thoughtz.
b - bon. ma!z dzat != meanz du = hav faln azleep doez !t +?
a - ev!damnt non.
b - tzo - th!nk!ng kannot b ver! !mportnt 2 be!ng auake. dzn uat about dze 
    lazt th!ng u menz!ond - zenz!ng dz!ngz hapen!ng 2 u +? uen du = auake
    r u alua!z hav!ng zenzaz!onz ov zom k!nd +? or !z !t az u!th thoughtz -
    zomt!mz u r + zomt!mz u arnt +?
a - !t = dependz uat du = mean b! zenzaz!onz. ! = hav zent!mntz uen auake - da+da.
b - zuch az +?
a - ! = zee!ng dze blue zk!. odr hear!ng 01 auto pass b!. odr feel!ng kold
    odr hap! or tr!zt ____... ou peut etre z!mpl! feel!ng `h!er ! am`
b - dont all ov d!esz !nvolv zenzaz!onz - dze !mprez!e dzat zomdz!ng = hapen!ng
    2 u odr !nz!de u +? du = zee dze l!ght u!th ur e!ez. du = hear dze zndz
    at ur earz. be!ng hap! odr tr!zt = !nvolvz ur face. or ur l!mbz or ur tumm!.
    evn dze feel!ng `here ! am` !nvolvz zomdz!ng comme ca. william jamez
    ekuatd `h!er ! am` avec `h!er ! m hav!ng d!esz zenzaz!onz !n m! head + nek`
a - da. abr ! = mor fam!l!ar u!th zpeak!ng ov zent!mntz dzn zenzaz!onz.
    !t = dze uord ! = knou.
b - alorz. = th!nk ue = !n akord. dze po!nt be!ng dzat !f du = auake 
    `zent!mntz` az du = !nd!katd = dze dz!ng kannot do u!thout. tzo !f zom1 
    = ztatd `zomt!mz ! = z!t + hav zent!mntz + zomt!mz ! = juzt z!t` dzat
    != ud make zensz +?
a - != ver! zure. zuposz ! = uear z!t!ng + th!nk!ng + all m! zent!mntz uear 2 
    ztop. dzn ! = ud b z!t!ng + th!nk!ng + hav!ng 0+0 zent!mntz.
b - hav u evr eksper!enszd dzat +? letz tr! !t.
    klosz ur e!ez. shl kount 2 3. du = z!t + th!nk + tr! 2 blok out 
    ever!dz!ng elsz 4 dze nekst 1o zekondz ______............ du = kan opn ur
    e!ez nou. uat uaz !t l!ke +?
a - m! noze uaz t!kl!ng. tzo dzat != uaz fa!r.
b - oke - ma!z du = l!kl! shl alua!z f!nd !t unfa!r 4 zomdz!ng alua!z !ntrudez.
    abr = shl take ur po!nt. suposz du = kould do uat u za!d + blok out
    all zenzaz!onz. dzn dze kuezt!on bkomz uether th!nk!ng !tzelv != haz
    01 k!nd ov `feel` 2 !t.
a - u mean l!ke william jamez za!d - zenzaz!onz !n m! head + nek +?
b - != uat had ment although !t = !nteressant uat du = zugeztd
    4 dzere = uaz 01 zkool ov pz!kolog!ztz !n dze lazt zentur! dzat kla!md
    dzat th!nk!ng !nvolvz feedbak 4rom dze zk!n + muzklez.  
    houevr uat ! = had ment = dzat th!nk!ng alua!z !nvolvz !mager! + !mager! = haz
    at leazt 01 shadou! konekz!e 2 zenzaz!on. par eksampl th!nk!ng uordz   
    = 01 b!t l!ke hear!ng uordz. ou th!nk!ng !n p!kturz = 01 b!t l!ke zee!ng dzm.
a - onl! 01 b!t.
b - but phpz - enough 4 dzere 2 b zomdz!ng l!ke !t `feelz` 2 th!nk.
a - r u za!ng ever!dz!ng ue do !nvolvz zenzaz!onz +?
b - ne. = ztat!ng != poz!bl 2 !mag!n be!ng auake or be!ng onezelv u!thout
    zenzaz!onz.
a - a ou!. du = muzt b r!ght. 4 !f ! != felt an!dz!ng !t = ud b dze zame az
    !f ! != uaz.
b - uear !z d!sz lead!ng uz +? doez !t mean dzat hav!ng zent!mntz = dze zame
    az be!ng auake +?
a - zeemz l!ke !t - although ! != ud hav thought dze! uear ku!te dze zame.
b - phpz be!ng auake !z mor ov 01 lazt!ng ztate dzat 01 entrz or leavez. 
    uearaz zent!mntz = mor ov 01 tranz!ent prozesz dzat = hapen!ng 2 01 
    r!ght nou. tzo dzn = be!ng auake = komposzd ov numerouz momentz ov
    hav!ng zent!mntz.
a - da
b - phpz dzere = addtl d!frnzez. phpz dzere = t!mez uen u hav zent!mntz although
    du != auake.
a - da+da. = hav juzt remberd. ! = hav zent!mntz - uat u kall zenzaz!onz uen
    dream!ng. uen ! = had dze dream ! menz!ond = had felt hor!d dz!ngz. ! uaz
    !n dze zea + ! = uaz droun!ng ___.. uzual! though = hav luvl! dreamz.
b - tzo uen zom1 za!z `zleep uel. zueet dreamz` dze! = ma! b za!ng `feel
    plzntl! u!lzt azleep`.
a - mom! = za!z dzat.
b - bon. zuposz dzn ____.. ue = need 01 odr uord 4 hav!ng zent!mntz. auake u!l not do.
a - da.da. + ue = need 01 odr uord 4 not hav!ng zent!mntz 4 azleep uont do.
c - 







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