Jody Berland on 3 Aug 2000 14:33:43 -0000 |
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nicely put. -----Original Message----- From: jen Hui Bon Hoa <epistrophy@yifan.net> To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> Date: July 31, 2000 11:38 AM Subject: Re: <nettime> con.troll > >star.power@usa.net writes: >> We are dissolved. > >well yes. this is not new. > >Now there is an aestheticised experience of historicity available in the >technological centre of the dominant order: a safe, tightly framed >experience of flux that we see/experience alone. Unable to peer through >the screen to see the wires and pipes that must form the infrastructure, >we collapse back onto ourselves and think "my... how like this I am, how >like an image..." we shiver at the insight: absent any vision of the >infrastructure or framework for thinking in oppositional terms, we can >only deal with this insight by abandoning ourselves to it, imitating its >modalities: perhaps we engage in acts of worship to this electroflux, >making little electro-selves that we float out into this new aether like >candles on paper boats that we watch dissolve before our eyes. Little >machines that show how we have processed what we have read, how we >understand that we are simply performing interstices, how this performance >lets us produce new needs and and new desires. We imagine that a space of >freedom is to be found in this production of models that recapitulate the >profile developed by advertisers because we stand at a slight remove and >rehearse the logic of the order. so it does not emcompass us. See, we >repeat it. then we push the copies out into electrospace and maybe watch >the website counter to see the number of hits and thrill at the image of >ourselves being consumed. Maybe this is what hesiod meant. > >in the end it is all about the self, the individual and the flux, the >dance that we trace through the flux, alone. > >Capitalism wouldn’t have it any other way. > >We do what we are supposed to, but misrecognise it. > >Perhaps we are have always in a sense been dissolved. What has changed is >that the horizons against which we imagine what is possible have >collapsed. Unable to deal with this—to describe it, to think it, to start >to build from the field of debris--we are sent packing by the >pseudo-politics of the academy to a space of collapsed horizons that >leaves us only the dominant order to shape our horizons, and narcissism to >fill our attention. We confuse repetition and critique. > >I consume. I recycle. But I don’t mean it. I am an Artist. My shopping >is subversive. > >is your worldview informed by the accidental thatecherism of academic doxa >in the wake of deconstruction? Suspicion of any political argument, any >social category, because they are "totalising" and we all know that >totalising and totalitarian share a first syllable? > >Star.power@usa.net writes: >>spread my hopes thin >>>Craig Brozefsky "<craig@red-bean.com> wrote: >>>"jen Hui Bon Hoa" "<epistrophy@yifan.net> writes: >>spare my scars again >>> My question: Is the formula really ‘patent or be patented’? >>> Could your work really be copyrighted by someone else? Perhaps this >>> is why ted byfield copyrights his texts (is that right, ted?). This >>> is why I would consider copyrighting my own production. >>this is why we should/would consider consuming ourselves again, all my >>publications are savory >>stitch up my smiles again >>close down my sales again >>we are rising so >>we are alarming >>on screen >>we see >>the terrorific pleasures of our own consumption >> >>kno(c)ontroling the konversations >>all channels open >>laid down bare wires and life lines >>calling out reaching empires of [kno] >>your enemies >> >>(is that alright?) > >Beyond the pseudo-soundgarden poetry, there is a conflation of opposition >and commodification. > >I write: >I do not want my work to be >>> appropriated by and for causes to which I am personally in >>> ideological opposition. > >star.power reads: >> all the bodyminds gathered here agree to be in limited opposition to >the >> undersigned idealouge > >but... > >Limited opposition because all opposition is appropriated as it circulates >in commodity form? Then opposition is a content — there being no clear >distinction form/content, you would think that oppositional content would >inflect form. But maybe not. For personal reasons, political reasons, it >matters to me that what I produce involves some level of critical >engagement with the social order under which I find myself. It is >frustrating that consumption and/or appropriation, partly as a function of >commodification, partly as a function of their persistence across time and >the fact that this persistence opens them to multiple contextualisations, >mostly as a function of the range of social or interpretive practices >shaped by this order and its primary mechanisms of cultural reproduction >tends to wear this critical engagement away. It is not clear to me that >irony and capitulation are the answer. > >I believe that political action is possible and that an alternative to >this social order is desirable. I think that the dominant context that >shapes the possibilities of political action is the implosion of the >marxist imaginary. Effectively, this collapse provides a historical >experience of a particular type of oppositional politics, and a void that >can be occupied by a new type of oppositional politics. I believe that >such a politics is desirable, and that it should be instituted around the >notion of autonomy, around the normative idea of direct democracy. I >therefore think that grappling with questions of politics and political >strategy are worthwhile. - I do not see how these questions necessarily >blur into fantasies of control. But perhaps you do. I would perhaps be >interested in seeing how you worked out this linkage, this rationale for >hiding in the private space of irony, if you have worked it out. > >there are an infinite number of ways to rationalise checking out. The >dance of commodities and the devices that frame them advance these reasons >continually. It is more difficult to resist them than it is to give in >and then hide behind a world-weariness, a boredom, with the vague hint of >"I am more radical than you" as a rhetoric of legitimation. > >Want the logic again? > >Appropriation of oppositional work by the dominant order silences the >oppositionality of the work. there is what marcuse called repressive >tolerance, which has been rediscovered and renamed repeatedly by theorists >in different domains (museumification and so forth). > >This is what I’m talking about: > >Has not this society, glutted with aetheticism, already integrated former >romanticisms, surrealism, existentialism and even Marxism up to a point? >It has, indeed, through trade, in the form of commodities. That which >yesterday was reviled today becomes cultural consumer-goods, consumption >thus engulfs what was intended to give meaning and direction.’ > > – Lefebvre, _Everyday Life in the Modern World_. > >jen > >----------------------------------------------------- >http://eo.yifan.net >Free POP3/Web Email, File Manager, Calendar and Address Book > > > ># distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission ># <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, ># collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets ># more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body ># archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net > _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold